Are there limits to Automomy?

topic posted Wed, September 14, 2005 - 3:03 PM by  Pez D
for instance, just becasue you can do something should you, or is this juat acting out in adolescent rebelion? Should you forgo your responsiblity to yourself, how about your responsibility to others? Or are responsibilitie jus tthose burdens you pick up for yourself?
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Pez D
Indiana
  • Re: Are there limits to Automomy?

    Thu, September 15, 2005 - 9:56 AM
    Are you asking if being Automous/free is responsibility free? Free from self-responsibility?

    It doesn't seem to me that it would be. There would always be some self-analyzation going on. I know that I want to murder people at times, but knowing that I would then not be free (not even speaking of prison time) from the guilt, from my own conscience, I do not act on it. But I know that I could. I have that ability, but I exercise self restraint, but I don't feel that I give up my autonmy/freedom by acting responsibly. Heck, I feel that I gain more simply by knowing that I could, but knowing all the reasons that I won't. Freedom, even Self freedom comes with the price of responsibility. Responsibility to the Self, if nothing else. Once you do something irresponsibly personal/Self consequences start to arise. Guilt being a major one with many people. Guilt is the major freedom stealer. You can't be free with guilt weighing you down, riding along with you whereever you go, whatever you do.

    I think just because you CAN do something doesn't mean that you necessarily should, that it does end up being a autonomy/freedom stealer, and it is the person just acting out in adolescent rebelion/immaturity.

    Responsibility is a form of freedom, a form of autonomy. Think back to when you were a child. You didn't really have much in the way of responsibility or autonomy/freedom. You were given responsibility here and there, where you could handle it. Sometimes it was taken away do to irresponsibility. I'm not saying that they more responsibility you have the more free you are, but the more you can recognize SELF responsibility, work within it/with it the more freedom you have the potential of gaining.

    I'm probably not the best to be answering some questions on here, I've got so many unanswered autonomy/free being questions myself.
  • Re: Are there limits to Automomy?

    Mon, September 19, 2005 - 2:16 PM
    Here is a link that I found today. It puts into words, some of what I've been trying to say on here.

    plato.stanford.edu/entries/...autonomy/

    " To be autonomous is to be a law to oneself; autonomous agents are self-governing agents. Most of us want to be autonomous because we want to be accountable for what we do, and because it seems that if we are not the ones calling the shots, then we cannot be accountable. More importantly, perhaps, the value of autonomy is tied to the value of self-integration. We don't want to be alien to, or at war with, ourselves; and it seems that when our intentions are not under our own control, we suffer from self-alienation. What conditions must be satisfied in order to ensure that we govern ourselves when we act? Philosophers have offered a wide range of competing answers to this question."

    (The link has much more, this is just a small intro.)

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